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November 20, 2019

1989 Town Car ATC Question

Hello -

New Here- I've had 1994 Town Car, 1999 Town Car, 2005 Town Car love them! Live in NYC I have just brought a 89 Town Car with 157k miles on it. The Issue I am having is when I use the heat under "mix" works great at all the fan speeds but once i try to move it over to "floor" it doesn't blow at any speeds and sometime on the highway 50-65 mph it might work a little on floor but not really. My mechanic has told me that I might need a new climate control unit, Just want to check in to see if you knew of this problem thank you!

Jasvir

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Hi Jasvir -

Yes, there is a part that commonly failed on those 89s that caused that exact problem. If you are interested you could send this part into us for testing. I am not sure of the availability at this time but we should be able to replace it if faulty or repair yours if a new one is not available. Call us when you are ready and speak with George for more information.

Sincerely,

Bill

1960 Mark Convertible Overheating

Bill -

I have just purchased this wonderful car but unfortunately it overheats very badly after about 20 minutes running. I have removed the main thermostat but that did not help. When I start the engine with the radiator cap removed water erupts from the filler neck. I have been told this maybe a cylinder head gasket problem but there is no sign of water in the oil or oil in the water. Would the 2 block thermostats or missing water diverters cause this type of effect on starting please. I am trying to avoid removing the engine as it's very heavy!!

Thank you and best regards.

David

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Greetings David -

Yes, those 58/60 Lincolns are very special cars. They create excitement with car lovers wherever they are shown.

We cannot seem to locate your customer number here at Lincoln Land or the information and sheets on the sale of the car (if you purchased it from us). Would you please send us that information along with any helpful maintenance history etc.

Did the coolant erupt from the filler neck area before you removed the thermostat? Removing the thermostat is never the way to correct an overheating engine of course. A sixty year old car can have several cooling system issues depending on the quality of the maintenance performed by its owners since the car was new. Yes, we do recommend eliminating the block thermostats and servicing the diverters. However, the easy to check items should be examined first. What was the actual indication to you that your engine was overheating? Was it the Temperature gauge reading only or loss of coolant etc.? The previous owner should be able to supply some important information to you regarding this cooling system issue.

Sincerely,

Bill

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Dear Bill,

Many thanks for your swift reply and my very tardy response!!

The car came from the US to the UK in around 1988 and stayed there for 10 years or so. It then was exported to Spain and eventually to Tenerife in 2002. I purchased it from the Spanish owner a few months ago and he owned it since 2002. Unfortunately it was a distressed sale on the owners behalf and he refuses to discuss the overheating issue now as he did not tell me about it when we were negotiating. The car will remain in Tenerife so there will be no future rust issues!!

I am unsure if the filler neck fountain was present before I removed the thermostat but the first indication before this was coolant overflowing from the overflow pipe in the radiator onto the road. The gauge eventually moves to the far right and you can hear 'bubbling' in the radiator and also in the head I think after 15 to 20 minutes.
I am thinking it may be a head gasket issue and intend to make a spark plug with a drilled hole and try a little air pressure to each cylinder in turn to see if there is any bubbling in the radiator.

The parts book also shows a fan shroud on the 5 bladed, air conditioned cars and my car definitely does not have one fitted, I am sure this doesn't help the situation but is not the total answer I am sure.

I do need some parts so will contact your sales department for those.
If you have any other thoughts or suggestions they would be very welcome.

Best regards,

David

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Hello David -

After you do the air pressure test in the cylinders and are satisfied that all is well at that point I would look at the radiator. If it is original and/or up to specs for an a/c car I would have a radiator shop examine it and to rod it out to clean it properly. After all of these years and depending on the vehicle maintenance, regular flushing will not dislodge the sludge that has built up over time. The rad cap should be tested of course to be sure that it is within specs. Water pumps on these engines are also known to suffer from damaged impellers. Next, the block thermostats should be discarded and the diverters serviced as you have no information on their condition. The fan shroud is an important feature to have " if " one was factory installed on yours. If some type of work was performed on your Lincoln at some point in time and the "wrong" radiator installed they may have left the shroud off because it did not fit. We have no knowledge of a fan shroud factory installed however on this era of Lincoln in the USA. Keep us posted on your progress with the overheating situation.

Sincerely,

Bill

November 5, 2019

1961 New Owner Questions on Transmission & Top

Hi Bill,

Just bought this 1961 convertible which I've done about 2000 miles with so far. I'm a little concerned with the transmission. When shifting from 2nd to third, RPM's go up for awhile (like 2 seconds) before 3rd is engaged. This happens especially when the transmission/engine gets hot. When cold, it works normally. Is this normal? Other issue is with the top operation. Sometimes the pump/motor runs really slow and sometimes not at all!!! It always wakes up when I gently tap the pump/motor with a wrench! I measured the voltage at the motor end and it's only 11,5. When I measure straight from the battery, its 12,3. And 12,1 when measured from the power wire before deck up relay. Is this power loss normal after all these relays and solenoids? I'm thinking of replacing the pump/motor unit but then I thought if the problem is caused by loosing power somewhere between battery and pump/motor. Many thanks in advance for any advise Bill!

Tomi

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Hi Tomi -

Since you have only recently purchased your Continental and have no history available regarding any service previously performed on the transmission I can only advise that what you describe is not normal. You should first check the transmission fluid to find out if is up to the "full" level on the dipstick with the engine running and warm and that the color of the fluid is clear and appears clean and free of bad oil odors. If the fluid does not look very good a fluid flush and change may be needed in order to diagnose further. If the situation does not improve with new correct fluid, a visit to a trusted transmission shop in your area will possibly be needed as an overhaul may be required. A good shop will be able to correctly determine this for you with a road test.

The convertible top pump problem sounds like a bad motor if you need to tap it in order to get it started. These complicated power top mechanisms require the technicians to have the proper manuals and wiring diagrams available for reference etc. when repairing them.

You don't advise us if you have the engine running with the battery charging or if you have the battery on a charger while testing. If you do suspect a bad connection of a sort that is causing a power loss to the pump motor you could test as follows. Using the correct wiring diagram and a volt meter start at the battery and test the circuit towards that pump motor where you are reading a power loss. You could also start at the pump motor and follow the circuit towards the battery looking for a voltage increase from your low of 11.5 volts to a higher voltage through a faulty connection or component on that circuit. We have manuals and wiring diagrams available for you as well as parts if needed.

Sincerely,

Bill

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Hi Bill,

Thank's for your reply! The fluid level is ok and the fluid looks ok to me. I think I'd better take it to transmission shop and ask for diagnose! Hopefully I find a good one here in Helsinki, Finland!!!

The top is a tricky beast! I've been able to track the voltage all the way to deck open relay where the voltage is still ok. Then things get complicated!!! I have manuals and wiring diagram but I'm still lost! But we have a long winter ahead so with a reasonable amount of beer I think I'm gonna have a lots of fun with it!

I'm totally fallen in love with this car. My uncle had one, '62 model, when I was a kid and I've always wanted one since then. I turned 50 two years ago and decided to give myself a birthday present. I finally found one in reasonable condition last summer. I believe we go together all the way till the end!

Kind Regards,

Tomi